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Post by unoclay on Apr 27, 2003 12:27:46 GMT -5
I had an idea the other night, here it is. Feel free to ignore it, my feelings are not invested. I was thinking that 2p2, the pat panang, Godzillionaires et all could benefit from some sort of DegiRetreat (patent pending) wherein the musicians and artists involved in the manifestation of "groove" would collectively hole up and work on new material, old favorites, etc. Like 7 days secluded from society with lots of captain and instruments and recording devices and inspirational speakers. This is the sort of thing Joe could use his dry erace board skills to plan. Example Day One: 10 AM Pancakes, 11 AM clean up 12 PM work on old song 2 PM relax with cigarettes or coffee 3 PM Improv Jam with recording 4 PM review tapes 5 PM Suppertime (Chili and beer) 6 PM Clean up 7 Pm naptime 8 PM Blindfolded Instrument Switching 9 PM Record 3 takes on old song revisited (just for fun) 10 PM eat the captain 11 PM Royce gives a presentation on the projector 12 AM jam featuring DJ quiggly, the rest of the night for freetime
Day 2-7=similar plans with new twists
This is just a sample of all the good sorts of things that could occur at a planned degiRetreat. However the theme would be the regenerative process of inspirational aesthetics, or something like that. I wonder if people would like to ever do something like this.
Hey guys! -_Clay
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Post by unoclay on Apr 27, 2003 12:35:11 GMT -5
PS. I had this 'idea' when i was listening to some cuts from Econoclink 2 and thinking to myself, "Gosh oh gee its good that so many great things have happened. I sure hope they keep on happenin! Cuz i sure like stuff."
Also for the Philly peeps? There is a red rocket show at Doc Watsons on Monday 4/28, round 10 PM i hear. Im gonna be there to give mad ups to those state college inbreds!
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Post by kid on Apr 28, 2003 9:00:29 GMT -5
I would love to subscribe to the DegIRetreat Service. How can I get invoived?
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Post by unoclay on Apr 28, 2003 18:45:27 GMT -5
the first thing would be to have the "p22 people" decide when they could get together. An obvious time in my world would be in the first couple weeks of June or so. Pre tour and summer things. Perhaps you Mr. Kid could ask those people.
It seems that the band members themselves would function as a natural magnet of organization for the other people who would be vital to a succesful Retreat. This would mean the lowly peons who forge the supporrt staff for daily cooking and stuff-transport detail (grocery store and whatnot). This tends to be the natural function of a band anyway--holistic conceptual magnet. I nominae that everyone who wishes to attend the event would be assigned certain support functions. Royce will have the presentation covered. I can work on things too.
Obvious next point is the "where" factor. Different places such as Chuck's farm and stuff might be under consideration? I dont know chuck well enough to ask....perhaps there are other places as well, though this is not my specialty, if i knew of these places id already be there. Remote and liberal. Who would know the answer?
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Post by unoclay on Apr 30, 2003 0:26:30 GMT -5
I see you got yerself un(0)-banned...have you promised to renounce your theater-of-absurdity antics in exchange for the privilage of degIexpression? I refrained from commenting on your alleged ban due to the fact that i agree with the right of individual groups to propose their own boundaries, etc. You seemed to have ignored a critical distinction that exists between "uno" and "degi"--thus your disenfranchizement as a permissable agent of nonsense.
Now, the question of whether "boundaries" or "group identity" are possibilities in the 'post-modern' ""society"" is an entirely different question...but it appears that, at least in the context of a listserver, groups can enforce viewpoint. And though on the uno list im far from advocating the ban of any member (as we've developed our own perception of identity), im also much in favor of Degi maintaining the spirit and perspective of their own group.
thus ends my thread-irrelevant comments on Lou's banning.
Hey where is everyone else? On some kind of retreat or soemthing? this list is dead right now
--Cl
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Post by degicank on May 7, 2003 11:39:28 GMT -5
Sounds Great! I don't know if the farmer would be into this kind of thing until much later in the year. I've seen A couple of ripe spots in centre county, but it might be more fun if we were in a different location. Sorry I've not been more Degicankfaithful to this message board, I'm having trouble using the intrenet. I've got to get the next 4 Econocanks fininshed before 2p2 heads out on tour. We are about to have a working schedule I beleived, Our main action will be in oregon but we should hit Missoula, and Bay Area also. If you know any one at all (relatives,freinds, strangers) that might know about places to play, party, or crash please lettuce know right away. This kind of tour can be dangherous for an underground Band on the run. Lou we are glad you are here and we respect your opinion. We will read your post even if you leave out the potty mouth. Please friends don't give Lou any attention for these things. Often a person will desire attention so much the line between positive and negative becomes blurred for them. This is the no spin zone...
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Post by kid on May 8, 2003 7:02:31 GMT -5
I believe one of the Boston DegIcankian trustees in Boston has accesss to a facility in New Hampshire that may fit the description you outlined above. Shall we contact hime with a prospective date?
June 7 to June 15 are being booked for a pa p22 tour then it's off to Vortland, IA for a June 20 date and weest from there. Maybe sometime before June 7? or in mid-late Aug?
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Post by degicank on May 8, 2003 11:31:12 GMT -5
lou don't play dumb, you know as well as i do that anyone we see on tv has bought into the system, folks like jackson, bill maher and janine garafolo wouldn't be able to speak for a minute on the coorporate media if they weren't actually a part of the conspiracy to destroy america and create a communist world government. the biggest threat to a free USA is the liberals and academics who think the way to freedom is socialization. We are sent out as sheep among wolves, the commie left got its program pushed forrward hardest during the nixon years. in this crazy antimatter universe everything is oposite, your greatest friends are probably waiting to stab you in the back, and the ones you consider your enemys or at least enemies to your point of view are probably prepareing the old bait and switch... and josh i hope you aren't on eli's side trying to sabatogue a east coast tour rather than a PA tour. Remember Eli and Jack said I shouldn't use that quechee demo but the studio record i got has data loss on every track. It seems as though you guys don't ever want to do the vermont tour we canceled in febuary...
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Post by kid on May 8, 2003 13:54:23 GMT -5
please clairfy
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Post by degicank on May 8, 2003 16:08:09 GMT -5
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Post by unoclay on May 8, 2003 19:32:07 GMT -5
I would think that anytime is a good time for Degolishosness--try spelling that one sometime. Id also say that Pre-june 7th would mean a great op for your pre-tour(s) practice, as long as p22 and others are free for attendence. Perhaps making the primary days Friday-Monday would increase attendence-abilities, with a Tue/Wed/Thursday wrapup for the ones who dont have to return 'home' after a weekend of degi-renewal.
Like the initial idea stated, this event could include responsibilities for all confirmed comers, such as transportation of stuff and mealtime goodness. Also focusing on the captain, the recording of improv, and 12-step focus groups covering the manifestation of christmas past. A real multi-day session degicated to the lotus of hypergroove. I think people having specific focuses beforehand results in positive fixation.
Kid, id say first solidly confirm with key parties (joe, jack, eli, caleb etc) and then speak with Mr. Connecticut. The rest will follow.
--.02$ CL
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Post by degicank on May 9, 2003 12:53:16 GMT -5
I'm afeared that we will be too short on time since we will be concentrating on prepareing for lift off... lets keep this idea growing though, it is a great oppurtunity... [shadow=red,left,300]THE CAPTAIN[/shadow]
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Post by degicank on May 9, 2003 12:57:28 GMT -5
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Post by unoclay on May 9, 2003 19:48:04 GMT -5
was afraid that might be the case, thus the suggestion for the weekend-specific idea, many people are freer than on the weekdays. I tend to renew myself every weekend by bathing in the tigress river that is uno, but have recently noted that state college is about equal parts degi and uno, thus my bath is a mixture of bliss and sewer-rats. It is up to us to decide who is who.
I was listening to the Cosmik Ray cd today from way back in last millenium, i found it educational to listen to his dialog attempting to get a nons-specific handle on how to discuss the performance. He was obviously afraid of saying the wrong thing and offending the aesthetic sensibility, so instead he kind of dances around the words one might normally use. This is interesting to me. Says a lot about the way people think.
Is there gonna be a big show in state college before the end of june? An arranged date like that might allow for some pre-planning blowout arrangements that would at least allow for some nonsense... the captain could be procured and an audience of crazy 3-eyes people manifested.
-_CLay!
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Post by degicank on May 12, 2003 12:50:44 GMT -5
who is sewer rats?
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