I'm not sure man. Alot of great inventions came by accident, There is definately a part of me that steals from cosner with "build it and they will come". This principle is founded deep with in the codes of Degicank. Hence, Never Stop, and Always. Maybe this psuedonization, we call Degicank (I think I just made that word up, (by accident) but I like it; Pseudo-nation-organization = psuedonization), has yet to reach its full potential, maybe it has even surpassed its full potential. I don't know what the path for this pseudonization holds. But I do know if Degicank's primary potential involves people whom sitting on the side lines and bitching, we are a very wealthy pseudonization, very wealthy indeed.
But if you have some other Ideas of just what the team can be working on, by all means enlighten me. But don't get me wrong I love conflict; conflict spurs competition, which in turns creats necessity and ultimately should lead to inovation. (what doesn't lead is to good spelling) I watched a special on Milton Freedman last night, does it show?
[glow=Purple,2,100]Attention[/glow]- If anyone took offense to anthing herein I appologize, that was not my intention.
I like the word psuedonization quite a bit. I re-read it three times before proceeding to the section where you said you just made it up. Perhaps you should create a wikipedia page for it.
Re: psuedonization I find it interesting that such a discussion should take place on the uno thread within the degicank board. If james is being serious, then id definitely know my response. If James is messing around, then my response would be different.
I do know that i personally differ from, say, people who are actually trying to do something specific with their art/lives. I have learned some things in life, and know that there are an infinitude of other items that I have not yet learned. One thing that i might have learned (but may later revise) is that specificity and intention in Art are probably dangerous seductions..dangerous in the fact that nearly all art includes aspects of chance, luck, and dare i say, "magic" (i.e. the hodgepodge of infinite inputs and influences...sociological, physical, metaphysical, etc). To pretend that it is otherwise is, IMHO, to inevitably head down the path to departments of logistics and/or fact-checking slave drivers, not to mention layers of beauocracy etc. And i already work there during my day job, and it isnt Art.
from the sidelines: If james' conception of degi-clank includes some semblence of these kind of items, then so be it, or perhaps im misinterpreting, no offense intended. I humbly think there is value to all perspectives, if only to give balance to/define the force. I am still a neophyte uno and just found out about degi-mysticism so I am interested in seeing all sides of the rubix cube.
Conflict does spur competition. Ann Rynd loves you Doktor.
Dr. and i had conversations regarding structure and committees a while back. I still perceive the integral differences. I still dont know any more answers.
I know/suspect that my respective place in uno, degi, and anywhere else is as an art cheerleader. I believe in Art and have seen its majesty. I believe in it. I dont know that quality is something that can be regimented. I think the best Art just happens, while James' argument for planning may also be valuable in setting the stage for such Happenings to happen. Happenings need to happen somewhere, and Chuck's Farm takes a lot of planning to make a space for it. But like Garcia, Trey, and the other magicians who ultimately stand at the center, i think the planning aspect can dangerously eat away at the real thing in the center.
However attitudes such as James' provide contrast to such nonsense, and the troll under the bridge is always a good way to remember to KEEP WALKING!
Uno is like a Terrorist organization. Setting up many training camps, and spreading propaganda towards achieving anti-objectives. Just as terror was funded by American Presidents and co-conspirators (Trey) and the US government, thus was the case with Uno....as the carded warriors were given airtime, weapons, sanctuary, etc. Since Trey became a Junkie, he has been on a crusade, a War on Terror... exploding future meeting halls... denying sanctity under foreign governments, and bombing secret uno bunkers with a jesus-like vengence. the cards are scattered. small pockets of resistence still spring up, with uno players joining forces with degicank gorillas... trying to pool resources and develop new strongholds and weak let-gos. The Sith moves swiftly over the face of today's world. The Jedi are all but wiped out. but we know the end... there are three skywalkers, two glowing sages and ofcourse, Lando and his furry minions... so all hope is not lost. certain /uncertain things may come to light and/or dark/gray
Out of curiousity what exactly does "Art Lives" mean? and while I am on the subject this "yours in art", why? Is this simply jargon, that I am unwittingly trying to figure out, or is there actually meaning to these statements?
Because to me if you say "the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects Lives." it sounds a bit non sequitur to me.
non sequitur: a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said
By the way Clay you also validated my hypothesis that if I used a made up word atleast three times in a single post. I could get someone to repeat that word. Now I have to say I didn't expect it to be repeated in the next five posted words.
"to inevitably head down the path to departments of logistics and/or fact-checking slave drivers, not to mention layers of beauocracy etc. And i already work there during my day job, and it isnt Art. I think the best Art just happens"
some "good" art just happens so does most bad diharrhea not always fit for human consumption might as well go stir some leaves around
i think oft times, craft and intent are desirable attributes in art. to each their own. the in supplies the out and vice versa
Very wierd to have this sub conversation in the uno thread (as I believe clay brought up earlier) but I will have to defend myself against your notion of sideline bitchers Dr Cank.
What the hell could anyone do productively with degicank? The second someone hatches a multi million dollar idea with any connection to the degicank brand name people are going to be crawling out of the woodwork to stake a claim at the bounty. You can deny that all you want but you know it's true. I think it's great there's people out there "trying" to keep degicank alive or whatever (in my opinion on life support) but for what? so ten years from now you can split your nest egg with 500 drug addicts?