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Post by DrCank on Feb 23, 2006 9:31:59 GMT -5
Well hold on to your hats, it looks like we have a civil war on our hands. Over a hundred Iraqi citizens where killed last night in retaliation for the bombing at the Samarra's al-Askari shrine yesterday. Also the Shia have killed three Sunni Clerics and kidnapped a fourth. All Iraqi soldiers both in the National Army as well as police forces have been called off leave and all leave has been suspended until further notice. In a land where Road-side explosives and Suicide bombings are daily occurrence, pulling security forces off leave is a huge deal. Here at Degicank all we can do is hope for the best, and pray that no more innocents have to endure injury over decisions that where out of our hands from the get-go. The golden dome dominates the Samarra skyline Todays veiw of the same dome
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Post by Bill on Feb 23, 2006 13:23:41 GMT -5
One worded question. Why?
Such a beutiful peice of architechture and a symbol of religion. Its really sad.
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Post by 993311ben on Feb 23, 2006 13:46:02 GMT -5
Never saw that one coming. For one Muslim group to attack another so blatently? In Islamic law attacking another Muslim is strictly prohibited. Even if a non-Muslim chops your hand of and then says "ashadu an-la ilaha il Allah wa ashadu ana Muhammadan Rasulallah" you can't retaliate without taking the guy to court. All of us over here at the DuBois camp are exersising our conspiracy theory on this one. You have to understand most Muslims live by a very strict code of rules. The above mentioned is high up on the list of no-no's. It is so prohibited that we just can't get our heads around it. Something may be amuck. An attack like this basically means someone is ditching their Islam. Why would someone perform an act in the name of something when the actual act negates the thing they are doing it for? 9/11 is the same case. In Islamic Jihad, when it is even legit, it is stricly forbidden to kill women and children.
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Post by DrCank on Feb 23, 2006 13:57:43 GMT -5
My conspiracy ears popped up also, but only Iraqi groups aim to benefit from a Civil War. Civil War doesn't aid any western inerests, oil flows faster in times of peice, and since we are already arming ourselves over there, an arms race isn't the cause. It is Puzzling. Lets not forget however, we are dealing with a society that raided it's own culture (museums), at the onset of civil disruption. That is actually a verry rare thing< i don't beilve it happened at all during either of the great wars. Very Puzzling
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Post by Raj on Feb 23, 2006 17:21:14 GMT -5
Consider that maybe the attack was not religiously motivated at the core. Possibly an easy way to enflame a population so they get nuts and start freeking out. Then you have a reason to crack down on them. Maybe take a little land, seieze a little property. Claim a wife or two.... Maybe install your own government.
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Post by JOE on Feb 24, 2006 9:33:01 GMT -5
Kirk selling guns has always been a western interests...
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Post by DrCank on Feb 24, 2006 10:22:53 GMT -5
I couldn't agree with you more, but since there is only a finite amount of arms and munitions production, history has shown that while in conflict the US focuses premarily on arming itself, as well as US allies in the theatre of war. It is during prolonged stertches of peace time, times ith a relatively low defense budget, that the US goes out of its way to sell arms to other nations/factions. a good example is S. America int he 80s and Africa in the 90s.
I was thinking about this this mournning, FYI almost two hundred dead now in retaliation, the major faction that would come out ahead in an Iraqi civil war senario is Iran. Persuamably the Shias would have an overwhelming victory in a civilwar (greater numbers and decades of represion) this would lead to an increased amount of power for the Iraian Clerics within Iraq. This would also place Irans might a few hundred miles closer to Isreal.
But Shia clerics bombing one of their holiest sites I think not. I hope not.
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Post by JOE on Feb 24, 2006 10:37:02 GMT -5
Kirk, I have a copy of "the econocank" for you, sorry we missed meeting up with you on tuesday. Josh tried calling but couldn't get a hold of you. He may come up to PSU this weekend, if so I'll send him back down with your econo... The US wants confusion and fear, it allows them to take greater controll. They would love to provoke Iran, but I assure you it is a bad idea. Iranian and galleiac are very similar languages, the most ancient. The Brittish(and their bastard cousins the americains) have tried to take over ireland and iran for thousands of years, I don't think these donkey f***ers Blair and Bush are going to be any more succesful. I started thinking about the revolutionary war. I think we actualy lost. All of america is run by the decendents of british lords. I think they may have won and just tricked us again.
you may have seen this before: Summary of “Dihydrogen Monoxide” The chemical compound DHMO is also known as hydric acid. It is based on the Hydroxide radical and is found in dangerous compounds. DHMO is an ingredient of many harmful substances, but the government and CDC is unwilling to ban its use. This substance is also referred to as ijklmn. Award winning scientist Nathan Zohner claims 86% of people would support a ban on DHMO and notes that people should “pay closer attention” to this information. A similar study shows 90% of citizens were willing to sign a petition against this substance. The article goes on to note that lack of government support has led the public to not have the information needed to understand this information. Maybe more funding for schools and more emphasis on basic science would help. The article goes on to give many examples of how this potentially dangerous chemical can affect us environmentally and physically. What are you going to do about it?
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Post by DrCank on Feb 24, 2006 11:07:10 GMT -5
I am a bit confused, what are the beneficial uses of DHMO.
and remeber we are not govenred by the blood of british monarchs, we are governed by the blood of jeudeo/christian monarchs. These bloodlines rule the majority of the western world, so don't trivialize these bloodlines with the insult of simply ruling a small island nation off the northern Atlantic.
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Post by DrCank on Feb 24, 2006 11:07:55 GMT -5
oh yeah, are you suggesting a civil war in Iraq is actually in the US's best Interests.
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Post by 113399bencdubois on Feb 25, 2006 2:57:22 GMT -5
I guess I close my thoughts on this subject ousting most of my conspiracy theory and focusing on the complicated conflict between the Shiites and the Sunnis. A family fued if you will. I don't understand much of it. I take back my previous comment on losing one's Islam through an act against another Muslim. Although this is technically true the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad (Hussein) was murdered by other Muslims when he marched out to reclaim the family's right to caliphate. This was an act committed centuries ago. Who's to say what all has transpired in the meantime.
Hussein and his brother Hassan were two of the Prophet Muhammad's grandchildren. The Prophet himself spoke many times about the merit of these two people. He even said, "there are two flowers in my life, Hassan and Hussein". Hussein (translated More Beautiful) is sighted as being a free spirit often times reciting his poetry in the Masjids (Mosques).
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Post by DrCank on Feb 27, 2006 8:33:53 GMT -5
I saw this documentary on Sadaam Hussien in like 2000 or 99' by a french filmographer. he stated that sadaam actually went back and redrew his family tree in order to show direct lineage with the prophet muhammad. anybody else ever hear that?
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Post by DrCank on Feb 27, 2006 9:31:12 GMT -5
Oh, by the way today Iraq is trying to go back to business as usual, both cerfues and car bans have been lifted, for the first time since the assult on the Mosque in Sammara. Well not exactly "usually" I guess, Sunni's are asking for the safe return of their mosques that are currently being held under Shia control. Hold your breath, if everything goes right this week, this whole affair will only cost the American taxpayer one more golden dome, and not the cost to extinguishing a civil war.
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