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Post by Ravelizard on Aug 13, 2008 2:45:59 GMT -5
Gotta have a rave pit. who wants to get in on it. Email: DavidBBarrJr@gmail.com
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Post by fu techno on Aug 13, 2008 13:04:30 GMT -5
I think you mean zombie pit. The electronic music sinkhole last year was terrible. Those cracked out retards trashed the kitchen late friday night and the music drowned out all music from the stage on saturday night. One of the awesome things about Chuck's is that you can hear the show on stage across the entire campground. Last year all to be heard was "untz untz untz".
Quote of the weekend: early sunday morning as a camper crawled out of his tent he gazed toward the sinkhole, raised his middle finger and screamed: "f*** YOU TECHNO."
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Post by Dr Suitcase on Aug 13, 2008 15:06:21 GMT -5
The Rave Pit is not welcome back to share the sinkhole with the kitchen.
After the destruction you drug addled zombies wreaked on the kitchen last year, I'm amazed you have the cojones to show your faces again this year.
Not to mention how your generator and TECHNO-CRAP noise drowned out everything else and kept everyone that tried to get some rest during any of the dark hours from sleeping.
Go find somewhere else to set up your damn pit-o-despair.
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Post by jww on Aug 14, 2008 21:24:47 GMT -5
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Post by Ravelizard on Aug 15, 2008 4:17:01 GMT -5
Human's have been dancing around the beat of a repetitive drum phrase under the harvest moon since the dawn of consciousness. As well as doing mind altering substances. Blame the Dj's that picked the shitty tracks stigmatizing and biasing your opinion. Behaviors of excess are to each their own as is are a DJ's music selection. I run the soundboard and will only play my dance music on the big system during set breaks in order to stay awake if I can't just take a walk and catch necessary perceptual electrolysis. I don't blame country music as a genre because garth brooks sucks and plays music that annoys me at any volume, I blame him.
teaching those unrealized to festival etiquette is an essential and unavoidable element of throwing a festival, as is garbage ( I own and run the sound board and see the trash the crowd leaves around the stage ) even the cops danced to the beat of harvest ritual last year. I could sit and spin quack 80's new wave tracks continuously and be just as annoying. Sleep is a 5-10am job at chucks. not a sound is heard from sun-up til 12ish.
The kitchen needs to coexist, cook and keep it real in the sinkhole. if there are trash cans and people keeping an open eye and ear on the 2 activities humans couldn't have evolved without, there will more likely be a totally different vibe. tailor activities for spunions to do down there like, schuck corn, pick up trash, keep their friends in check and so on. kids on drugs can many times be helpful and receptive to requests they might otherwise be adverse. make use of the energy there otherwise you stand to perpetuate the differenetial gripes lil raverwannabes have against wouldbe hippies and vice versa. things are what you make of them. respect and reciprocity are 2 way streets, whilst both my pathways to success and realization of the potential inherent to people, places and things. I'll reinvent the rave pit, maybe move it, maybe limit volume, maybe enforce a no clothes policy and hand out straw hats, perhaps thematize the space, do-it-up-hot like a garden of eden theme and lay 2 strippers on satin sheets, flat, naked and table high to insulfulate my blood pressure medicine off of, or maybe just set up a movie theater and show pineapple express or every episode of Lost start to finish. no matter, i'll take the expressed into consideration and entertain the idea of brothel meets Mcdonalds for the sink hole. If your lucky I'll have the Geico Lizard on hand to ensure the fun. Cheers,
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Post by Dr Suitcase on Aug 15, 2008 15:21:30 GMT -5
In order for the Kitchen to coexist, it needs to first exist.
It's hard for a kitchen to exist when it is totalled, destroyed, torn into tiny little bits (like the table top was last year), scattered to the four winds (perfectly good food dumped on the ground, equipment thrown into the bushes).
"if there are trash cans and people keeping an open eye and ear on the 2 activities humans couldn't have evolved without, there will more likely be a totally different vibe"
It seems to me that you are saying that, in order for the kitchen to coexist with the ravers, that we need security to enforce order and contain the violence. I don't think the kitchen should need guards.
"tailor activities for spunions to do down there like, schuck corn, pick up trash, keep their friends in check and so on"
There is unlikely to be a lot of organized activity down at the Kitchen after about midnight. The majority of the cooking happens during daylight hours, when we can see what the f*** we are doing. Last main meal is served round'about dark. There isn't going to be anyone down at 3am to keep an eye on the zombies.
"Behaviors of excess are to each their own as is are a DJ's music selection."
All I know for sure is that the first year that there is a rave pit in the same sinkhole as the kitchen is the first year that the kitchen is destroyed sometime in the wee hours of Sat morning.
"Sleep is a 5-10am job at chucks. not a sound is heard from sun-up til 12ish."
This is a blanket statement that does not apply to everyone at Chuck's. I know of at least a half-dozen folks camped within close earshot of the kitchen sinkhole that were quite disturbed by the all-night rave tecno-noise. This is one of the reasons that no-one camps up by the stage.
For all the reasons given above, there are good reasons to relocate the rave to somewhere else on Chuck's property. Somewhere that is not in the middle of the camping. Somewhere that is not right next to the kitchen. Somewhere far away from the main stage, too. Somewhere ELSE.
I might suggest down under the trees at the far end of the fields near the stream (on the far right, coming in the drive).
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Post by Re Where ma Rave pit Line up on Aug 20, 2008 14:55:24 GMT -5
Kudos for the relocation and much more peaceful coexistence of the main stage and the rave...keeping both at either end of the property will make for a much happier crowd, and you can freely float between either one without much competition between the sound waves. Someone should talk to Chuck and see if he has any suggestions for a spot. I fully expect to hear music straight through 'til sunrise, but it's the nature of bass to carry further and louder than a couple hippies with guitars (not that the main stage doesn't get LOUD, but I think y'all know what I mean). I enjoy ALL the music and MOST of the people at Chuck's but there should be a way to compromise so it can all be enjoyed equally.
Also, how's about everybody bringing a big 'ol honest-to-goodness outdoor trash can with them and getting them set up all over the gosh-darn place, along with some bags if you can spare 'em, that way maybe, just maybe, the trash will find a home this time. Even if you DON'T take it with you when you leave, at least it'll make for easier clean-up, and I'm sure Chuck can use the cans or donate them to someone else when it's over. I know it's a long shot, but....
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Post by Doc on Aug 20, 2008 19:08:58 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, Altamont needs to happen at Chucks. Anyone want to have the Angels show up as security? So, co-exist in peace or the end result will be pre-ordained. Don't say no one was warned!
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Post by mock on Aug 21, 2008 10:17:27 GMT -5
I know it was discussed to move it to the place u said in the back right corner of the woods I camp Down by there and would be willing to help make it with the intentio n of being spunionville and I like the pinneapple express idea and lower voluMe I think that the rave forest can happen with better planning and spunion control contact me at garrettsmock@gmail.com
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Post by rebeck on Aug 26, 2008 22:30:42 GMT -5
Is chucks farm definitely Sept 12-14, 2008? thanks!
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Post by Dr Suitcase on Aug 27, 2008 15:16:22 GMT -5
Chuck's Sunflower Farm Harvest Festival is definately Sept 12 - 14.
And you are encouraged to come out the weekend earlier (Sept 6 - 7) to help get the area ready, if you can find the time. I will be out getting the kitchen area ready, Sat.
I will probably bring some food and fire up something that Sat as well, for anyone that would wish to eat after the hard work. I am cooking meat as well (I can promise bacon for sure, and ribs, and other things as they come along) for all you non-vegetarians. Plus some kind of stir-fry veggies for the vegetarians, of course. ;-)
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Post by A DJ on Sept 2, 2008 22:30:57 GMT -5
For one, yes it is going to be up again....
For 2... Line ups are still in the order....
For 3.... Sound/ Generator was cut each day went on just as long as main stage....
For 4... Just because there was a rave stage, doesn't mean people from that trashed the kitchen.... No matter if the stage was there- those assholes would of still been in the area, just trashing something else... Whether or not the stage goes up doesn't prohibit the assholes, if anything the stages keeps people busy by either booing, driving them away, pushing/ unplugging the generator like they did last year or whatever....
If main stage was having a problem w/ sound, which I doubt it beings I was cooridinating with them the whole time, they would of told me.... This is a festival, with multiple different gener's of music... The RAVE stage did its part on cleaning up before and after (at least the people who through it...)
Do not blame the affects on other assholes on the rave stage....
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Post by Dr Suitcase on Sept 4, 2008 11:34:01 GMT -5
"Just because there was a rave stage, doesn't mean people from that trashed the kitchen.... No matter if the stage was there- those assholes would of still been in the area, just trashing something else... "
Let's test this theory. This year, situate the rave pit down by the stream. This will draw the rave folks and energy down there, and we will see if the assholes are still in the <kitchen> area.
It was not the main stage that was having a problem with the techno-sound, it was all the people camped around the kitchen sinkhole. Perhaps the fact that you had problems with people unplugging the generator might be a hint that many people had problems sleeping through the noise you generated all night.
Perhaps if the rave pit was not in the center of the parking/camping area, you would have less problems with irate campers that can't sleep through the noise, irate campers messing with your generator.
There are nice places, away from the main camping/parking areas, the kitchen, and the main stage, to set up the rave pit. There are some nice sinkholes down by the stream. Go down there. Show some responsibility, and some respect for others.
Blessed Be
Dr. Suitcase
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Re Where ma Rave pit Line up
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Post by Re Where ma Rave pit Line up on Sept 4, 2008 15:09:06 GMT -5
No matter whether it's Chuck's or some big festival elsewhere stages are never that close together, and rarely that close to where the majority of people are sleeping. It's just common courtesy to spread things out so that each group, and each sound, has its own space. Good fences make good neighbors, and that's even true at Chuck's. Just space things out and keep the stages away from the kitchen and things will run much more smoothly.
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Post by degicank on Sept 9, 2008 14:49:51 GMT -5
Right on Dr. Suitcase, I heard Degicank and Kick stand productions were setting up an early morning planet 22 set down near the waterhole. Us old guys will give the sleeping DJ's a taste of their own medicine Jamming while they try to get some sleep...
Ha HA HA HA AHA AHA AHAHHA AHAHAHAHAH AHAHA
RAVE 'TIL DAWN!!!
NEVER STOP
Degicank or die open your third eye...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I'm coming to get my cope pesay biga!
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